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Author Topic: Bolt in 2grfe swap into a 5th gen celica.  (Read 1093 times)

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Bolt in 2grfe swap into a 5th gen celica.
« on: December 04, 2016, 11:56:14 PM »
2gr swap

First I'd like to give a big thanks to Marc at Frankenstein Motorworks and Doug at Wire Gap 
Their flexibility, knowledge and products made this swap possible.
(http://frankensteinmotorworks.squarespace.com, wiregap.com/)



Let's get started.

Transmission
2grfe bolts to E series transmissions and S series transmissions.
One bolt hole needs to be tapped for an m12 bolt on the engine.
Take a carbide bur to clearance two nubs on the block/oil pan.

The hex head screws needed are:
2X M12-1.25x55mm
1X M12-1.25x70mm
1X M10-1.25x40mm

I prefer over building everything so each of these is at least grade 10.9 or better but you can pick as you wish.
I sourced these from eBay but fastenal has a wonderful supply of hardware as well.
https://www.fastenal.com/products;jsessionid=SYADRUFV4hKi+H0pPi9eB31L.38536438-9c19-3947-9017-bf77ad0514fd?r=~categoryl1:%22600000%20Fasteners%22|~


Flywheel (1MZ-FE)
Purchased from: Monkey Wrench Racing
Brand: Fidanza
PN: FEC-130881
https://monkeywrenchracing.com/product/fidanza-flywheel-toyota-2gr-fe-1mz-fe/

**Note**
You can use a stock 1mz flywheel but youíll be missing out on added Performance/better revving.

Flywheel bolts (4age I think)
Purchased from: Monkey Wrench Racing
Brand: ARP
PN: MWR-108008
https://monkeywrenchracing.com/product/mwr-arp-bolt-set-8-toyota-1zz2zz2gr2zr-flywheel/

(E series transmission)
3S-GTE/1MZ-FE clutch will work
Brand: Southbend
http://www.southbendclutch.com

(Ideally the S series should be usable but the axle support and clutch will need to be custom)


Axle shafts
1988-1991 Camry v6/ES250 auto or manual axle stubs.
Modified by: Frankenstein Motorworks
http://frankensteinmotorworks.squarespace.com/shop/2gr-fe-e153-axle-stub-modification-service


Axle Bearing support (2GR-FE equipped Avalon)
From: Toyota dealer
PN: 43457-07010

Hardware for bearing support
3X M10-1.25x35mm
From: Fastenal
https://www.fastenal.com/products;jsessionid=SYADRUFV4hKi+H0pPi9eB31L.38536438-9c19-3947-9017-bf77ad0514fd?r=~|categoryl1:%22600000%20Fasteners%22|~


Engine Mounting
The passenger side engine mount needs to be made or purchased from me.
(650 shipped in the states. Made to order)

The other 3 mounts are on the transmission. I deleted the crossmember and have only the two side mounts and a rear mount.


Fuel pump-320L/Hr
Brand: AEM
PN: 50-1000
https://m.summitracing.com/parts/avm-50-1000

The 2GR-FE is a returnless style fuel system and the 5g celica is a return style
Using an aftermarket adjustable fuel pressure regulator (FPR) run the return to the bottom of it.
I will probably retain the fuel line from the rear of the car to the filter in the engine bay but make new line from the filter to the FPR and rails.


Fuel Pressure Regulator
Brand: Aeromotive
PN: 13129
https://m.summitracing.com/parts/aei-13129
Gauge
PN: 650340
https://m.summitracing.com/parts/rus-650340

It helps to have an aftermarket fuel rail because of the angle the stock rail puts the inlet but it can be made to work without aftermarket rails, I was being overly critical.

Fuel rails
Brand: Radium Engineering
PN 20-0198

Army Navy (AN) fittings used
(need to update)
1x 220167B
2x 220887B
1x 220831B
1x AN2008B5 (-8AN 5ft but you only need 6Ē roughly)
2x 220165B
1x 640913
2x AN920-06-06B
1x 21006
1x AN2006B5 (-6AN 5ft but roughly 1.5ft needed)
2x 220687B


Return line
1x 11954R (-4AN 2ft roughly 1ft needed)
1x 16822
1x 220487B
(should be able to push the -4AN line over the factory fuel return line, itís low pressure so a clamp on it should be adequate)


212cc Uni 5/16Ē crankcase breather for gas tank breather (when you remove the charcoal canister there needs to be a filter)

Pedal Mount
Fly-By-Wire (fbw) pedal mount
It needs to be made or you can purchase one from me
(180 shipped in the US, 9 available)


Power Steering
It can be deleted, you can adapt the stock 2gr pump or do like I did and adapted a Volvo electric pump.

(I may make brackets to mount the pump ahead of the driver side front wheel)

For non-power steering non-AC systems use Dayco belt PN 5070579


Mass Air Flow Sensor
From: Toyota
PN:


3.25Ē MAF adapter
Brand: MRP Performance

**Note**
if you want more Performance you can order a MAF adapter from Frankenstein Motorworks along with the matching maf and ecu tune which is supposed to pick up 15hp at the wheels and shave 5 tenths off the quarter in an sw20.



Wiring Harness
I sent my harness to Doug at wiregap.com
You send your harnesses (one from the car and one from the engine)


ECU
Modified by:Frankenstein Motorworks
**Must match your harness**

**Note**
You can use a stock ecu, you will just be missing out on a handful of hp, a higher rev limit and a deleted check engine light.

5 plug:
http://frankensteinmotorworks.squarespace.com/shop/7ggctx2d3nouxvosfq5676nqfb0vew
2 plug:
http://frankensteinmotorworks.squarespace.com/shop/modified-2-plug-2gr-fe-ecu-2010-and-earlier-rav4


Headers/manifolds
Brand: Frankenstein Motorworks
http://frankensteinmotorworks.squarespace.com/shop/headers

**Note**
Factory manifolds should be able to be made to work. You may have to run two fronts.
The rears Iíve seen wonít fit.


Downpipe
I made my own crude one. An exhaust shop should be able to make one for you or modify a stock one.



Steering rack strap:
Youíll have to modify the stock one or purchase the parts I have
 (9 available $150 shipped in the US)



Radiator:
Early 90s civic radiator
Purchased a 3 row on eBay.

You can probably use a factory radiator but it was too close to the header and the ac compressor.

Radiator mounts
You will have to make your own or purchase the brackets from me.
(9 available, $150 shipped in the US)


Thereís a lot of small stuff but this is the majority of the parts required.

This could probably be done very inexpensively if you omitted all but the required parts and made a lot yourself. The engine mount would be the hardest part.

This should work the same in 88-91 Camry and 86-89 Celicas with the S engines.
« Last Edit: September 08, 2019, 10:21:35 PM by cuttyman9 »
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1992 Celica GT 2gr
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1971 Cutlass 350olds/tr6060
1975 Trans Am 455pont/t56
1967 Chevelle 5.0/t56
1966 C20 LB 478 v6/s6 650
1936 Chevy Master Coupe
1971 Triumph Stag
1991 300zx TT
1992 Subaru SVX
1992 Stealth RT/TT
1988 Corolla GT-S

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Re: The swap to end all swaps
« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2017, 02:58:05 AM »
was this swap ever finished?  still in process?  rav4 mount will be easier to use with a few mods. 

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Re: The swap to end all swaps
« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2017, 08:40:21 PM »
No not yet, I need to get my z and my Oldsmobile running so I have space to work on this car.

This mount is bolt in for gt/gts/alltrac unlike the rest of them.
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1992 Celica GT 2gr
1999 F150 4.6/t56
1971 Cutlass 350olds/tr6060
1975 Trans Am 455pont/t56
1967 Chevelle 5.0/t56
1966 C20 LB 478 v6/s6 650
1936 Chevy Master Coupe
1971 Triumph Stag
1991 300zx TT
1992 Subaru SVX
1992 Stealth RT/TT
1988 Corolla GT-S

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Re: The swap to end all swaps
« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2018, 04:08:13 PM »
**Updates**

Mr2 2gr mount fits but does not work appropriately. The engine sits about 3Ē too high on the passenger side.

The alternator sits very close to the stock radiator and an AC compressor doesnít appear as though it would fit.

The rear header hits the strap for the steering rack.

Each of these things Iím working on parts to overcome them.

The engine mount is halfway designed. First test fit I have the bolt pattern correct but Iím not clearing all the parts of the engine.

The strap for the rack will enter the design phase soon.

The radiator I chose was a 3 core civic one because Iíve seen another celica using that radiator without stated issues and civics seem to get along fine with them as well, I will design mounts for that as well.



Things that arenít exactly required but help to add a good touch to it is the throttle cable hole plug and the 184 to E series cable mount are being designed as we speak as well.



If anyoneís interested in parts Iím developing to make this swap happen let me know.
Founder of "Official 5th Gen Celica" on Facebook

1992 Celica GT 2gr
1999 F150 4.6/t56
1971 Cutlass 350olds/tr6060
1975 Trans Am 455pont/t56
1967 Chevelle 5.0/t56
1966 C20 LB 478 v6/s6 650
1936 Chevy Master Coupe
1971 Triumph Stag
1991 300zx TT
1992 Subaru SVX
1992 Stealth RT/TT
1988 Corolla GT-S

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Re: The swap to end all swaps
« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2018, 08:05:27 PM »
Engine fits
« Last Edit: February 14, 2018, 08:14:40 PM by cuttyman9 »
Founder of "Official 5th Gen Celica" on Facebook

1992 Celica GT 2gr
1999 F150 4.6/t56
1971 Cutlass 350olds/tr6060
1975 Trans Am 455pont/t56
1967 Chevelle 5.0/t56
1966 C20 LB 478 v6/s6 650
1936 Chevy Master Coupe
1971 Triumph Stag
1991 300zx TT
1992 Subaru SVX
1992 Stealth RT/TT
1988 Corolla GT-S

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Re: The swap to end all swaps
« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2018, 04:02:40 PM »
Clearance
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1999 F150 4.6/t56
1971 Cutlass 350olds/tr6060
1975 Trans Am 455pont/t56
1967 Chevelle 5.0/t56
1966 C20 LB 478 v6/s6 650
1936 Chevy Master Coupe
1971 Triumph Stag
1991 300zx TT
1992 Subaru SVX
1992 Stealth RT/TT
1988 Corolla GT-S

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Re: The swap to end all swaps
« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2018, 04:07:13 PM »
Fuel system parts (still working on the fuel rail to regulator, had some mixups in purchasing the fittings)
Founder of "Official 5th Gen Celica" on Facebook

1992 Celica GT 2gr
1999 F150 4.6/t56
1971 Cutlass 350olds/tr6060
1975 Trans Am 455pont/t56
1967 Chevelle 5.0/t56
1966 C20 LB 478 v6/s6 650
1936 Chevy Master Coupe
1971 Triumph Stag
1991 300zx TT
1992 Subaru SVX
1992 Stealth RT/TT
1988 Corolla GT-S

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Re: The swap to end all swaps
« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2018, 04:12:15 PM »
Passenger side motor mount design.

Fuel rails (allows me to clock the inlet toward the FPR, if you used stock ones one would have to find an appropriate line size, I think -5an if thatís available, and use -4an from the filter to the FPR)

Exhaust mock up.
Wonít be as good as equal length setups but itís temporary.
Founder of "Official 5th Gen Celica" on Facebook

1992 Celica GT 2gr
1999 F150 4.6/t56
1971 Cutlass 350olds/tr6060
1975 Trans Am 455pont/t56
1967 Chevelle 5.0/t56
1966 C20 LB 478 v6/s6 650
1936 Chevy Master Coupe
1971 Triumph Stag
1991 300zx TT
1992 Subaru SVX
1992 Stealth RT/TT
1988 Corolla GT-S

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Re: The swap to end all swaps
« Reply #8 on: November 15, 2018, 11:49:45 AM »
Some updates:

Developed mounts for a civic radiator and relocation brackets for the steering rack strap that was interfering with the rear header.

I have 9 of each available for sale if anyone were to try to replicate this. They are laser cut stainless steel.
Founder of "Official 5th Gen Celica" on Facebook

1992 Celica GT 2gr
1999 F150 4.6/t56
1971 Cutlass 350olds/tr6060
1975 Trans Am 455pont/t56
1967 Chevelle 5.0/t56
1966 C20 LB 478 v6/s6 650
1936 Chevy Master Coupe
1971 Triumph Stag
1991 300zx TT
1992 Subaru SVX
1992 Stealth RT/TT
1988 Corolla GT-S

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Re: The swap to end all swaps
« Reply #9 on: November 15, 2018, 11:53:51 AM »
Few more pics of it.

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1992 Celica GT 2gr
1999 F150 4.6/t56
1971 Cutlass 350olds/tr6060
1975 Trans Am 455pont/t56
1967 Chevelle 5.0/t56
1966 C20 LB 478 v6/s6 650
1936 Chevy Master Coupe
1971 Triumph Stag
1991 300zx TT
1992 Subaru SVX
1992 Stealth RT/TT
1988 Corolla GT-S

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Re: Bolt in 2grfe swap into a 5th gen celica.
« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2018, 11:36:10 PM »
Attached a parts list with prices.

No expense spared, so if youíre on a budget you can save a good chunk of cash by using factory manifolds and a factory 1mz flywheel and factory spec 3sgte clutch etc
Founder of "Official 5th Gen Celica" on Facebook

1992 Celica GT 2gr
1999 F150 4.6/t56
1971 Cutlass 350olds/tr6060
1975 Trans Am 455pont/t56
1967 Chevelle 5.0/t56
1966 C20 LB 478 v6/s6 650
1936 Chevy Master Coupe
1971 Triumph Stag
1991 300zx TT
1992 Subaru SVX
1992 Stealth RT/TT
1988 Corolla GT-S

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Re: Bolt in 2grfe swap into a 5th gen celica.
« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2019, 03:02:34 PM »
Ahhh here it is!
This is interesting, have you had to move the engine any direction to clear interference from anything? It seems like you moved everything around it instead?
How does it fare with regards to the subframe clearance?
My 6 had to have mine modified, but I believe the 5 has a different subframe setup?

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« Reply #12 on: February 07, 2019, 03:07:40 PM »
Forgot to ask, what diameter exhaust are you going with?

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Re: Bolt in 2grfe swap into a 5th gen celica.
« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2019, 06:04:32 PM »
It was easier to move the extra parts rather than move the engine since the trans would have to get moved as well and then play with axle placement etc.

I wanted a clean install that others can replicate (Iíve produced 10 of everything except the engine mount to sell) this.

Thereís a lot of corners to be cut if one wanted to do so and the parts may fit other cars/car builds with other motives (big turbo mounted in the grill etc)


The exhaust is 2Ē to 2.25 for now.
Iíll switch to 3Ē at some point. Maybe keep it dual all the way out.
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1992 Celica GT 2gr
1999 F150 4.6/t56
1971 Cutlass 350olds/tr6060
1975 Trans Am 455pont/t56
1967 Chevelle 5.0/t56
1966 C20 LB 478 v6/s6 650
1936 Chevy Master Coupe
1971 Triumph Stag
1991 300zx TT
1992 Subaru SVX
1992 Stealth RT/TT
1988 Corolla GT-S

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Re: Bolt in 2grfe swap into a 5th gen celica.
« Reply #14 on: September 05, 2019, 09:04:40 PM »
Thank you for all this Info! this is the route I think I'd like to go with St185 #2, the only issue is being that it's Rhd, I wonder what the clearance would be like with the brake booster and master cylinder on the other side! Do you think that would be an issue?
« Last Edit: September 05, 2019, 09:37:14 PM by Milo819 »

 

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