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Celica Information => Engine => Topic started by: Subspec on May 18, 2015, 10:40:39 PM

Title: My 5sgte Build.
Post by: Subspec on May 18, 2015, 10:40:39 PM
Bill asked me to post build sheet on my build. its been awhile but i will add more info and pictures as i go.

Head


Block

Forced Induction

Fuel Delivery

Electronics
Title: Re: My 5sgte Build.
Post by: Subspec on May 18, 2015, 10:45:56 PM
when building my 5sgte there are afew noticeable differences between the 5sfe and 3sgte. one of the main differences is the timing setup, with the 5sfe you have a single external cam gear and two internal cam gears that link the intake cam to the exhaust cam. also the crankshaft timing gear is different, along with the rod sizes.

here is a picture of a 3sgte rod trying to fit on a 5sfe crankshaft
(http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv169/subspec185/IMG_0178.jpg)

diffrences between the 3sgte and 5sfe heads

(http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv169/subspec185/car%20update/100_0170.jpg)

5sfe and 3sgte crankshaft gears lined up on keyway of 5sfe crank. you can tell the noticeable diffrences.

(http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv169/subspec185/new2/IMG_0247.jpg)


picture of the 5sfe stock rod and piston and the new forged rod and piston

(http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv169/subspec185/IMG_0179.jpg)

Build up of the block
(http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv169/subspec185/IMG_0188.jpg)

(http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv169/subspec185/IMG_0189.jpg)

(http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv169/subspec185/IMG_0185.jpg)

(http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv169/subspec185/IMG_1857.jpg)

(http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv169/subspec185/IMG_1859.jpg)

test fitment of the 3sgte head

(http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv169/subspec185/IMG_0231.jpg)

turbo setup with turbonetics t3/t4 turbocharger, Precision 38mm wastegate and knock off Exhaust manifold. (replaced exhaust manifold due to wastegate primarily coming off one runner

(http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv169/subspec185/IMG_1784.jpg)
(http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv169/subspec185/IMG_1850.jpg)

3sgte head build up

intake port after port and polish

(http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv169/subspec185/head/398209_10151506800395014_1636292979_n_zpshumk4rz4.jpg)

exhaust port after port and polish

(http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv169/subspec185/head/526229_10151506799270014_1759325540_n_zpszvcypmvz.jpg)

brian crower valves fitted with new valve seats

(http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv169/subspec185/head/553672_10151506802280014_1850666323_n_zpslzqbiuld.jpg)


cams fitted

(http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv169/subspec185/head/582800_10151506797920014_1500198980_n_zpshvwfjcrf.jpg)
Title: Re: My 5sgte Build.
Post by: cuttyman9 on May 19, 2015, 11:14:40 AM
Legit!!!
Title: Re: My 5sgte Build.
Post by: grassdragger738 on May 19, 2015, 07:54:01 PM
That's Sweet
Title: Re: My 5sgte Build.
Post by: Subspec on May 19, 2015, 10:01:42 PM
thanks. :) has taken alot of time and money to get it almost how i want lol. now the hard part is to find a chassis worthy of the engine.
Title: Re: My 5sgte Build.
Post by: grassdragger738 on May 19, 2015, 10:19:46 PM
That's always the hardest part
Title: Re: My 5sgte Build.
Post by: jaydog82 on May 21, 2015, 01:53:16 AM
Looking good guys, bill I would find d na cams or turbo it.I believe the gen 2 3sge cams fit with minor grinding. I have some spare gen1 3sgte stuff if you need anything, including a gen 1 3sgte fuel rail and injectors. One big thing to pay attention to is the coolant lines in the 3s bead matching the 5s block.
Title: Re: My 5sgte Build.
Post by: Subspec on May 21, 2015, 08:24:17 AM
That was one of the things I was concerned about when initially building the engine, comparing oil gallies, head stud/bolt locations, water jackets and head overlay inside the block/combustion chambers. They all lined up. I even compared the 3s head gasket to the 5s head gasket just to be sure this wouldn't be a issue.

Also with the new rods/pistons I had my local machine shop ballance the rotating assembly, polish the crank journals and grind them down alittle. This isn't ideal but it will work.
Title: Re: My 5sgte Build.
Post by: cuttyman9 on May 21, 2015, 01:56:28 PM
I'm not really concerned with cams, I have options.
Turbo cams are usually conservative on overlap and duration, it's less than ideal for NA but it will be an improvement over 5sfe cams.
Title: Re: My 5sgte Build.
Post by: Badnews on February 07, 2019, 08:40:41 AM
Subspec. That screen name sounds so familiar.
Title: Re: My 5sgte Build.
Post by: cuttyman9 on February 07, 2019, 05:50:48 PM
Unfortunately that’s Nick. Rest In Peace...